When I Say Myself Muslim, People Hate Us

Helped or hurted Islam?
Helped or hurted Islam?
jainab says: July 15, 2015 at 8:43 am

Hye Nielem, i am a sunni girl, i have seen from my child hood that in my community every thing relates to blood.from my born and after getting knowledge of duniadari i have seen only blood, any guest comes to our haveli , animals are killed brutly, after boys birth his organ is cut, when any festival comes camels and cows are killed so bruetly that one can not see all these. in family when any tension creats both sides attempt to kill another, what is this, i cant understand, in night i always hear sounds of crying animals,

After graduation i left my home and came to a big Indian city, now i am feeling very much sakoon, it does not mean that i am against islam, but i am only describing some facts of my community, every where when i say myself muslim people hate us, what is wrong i am still researching. but there is something wrong, its true, now i have decided to hide my identity, thanks. -Jainab

jainab says: July 15, 2015 at 9:19 am

dear love dont want religion, humanity is true religion, but my opinion is that try to understand each other, religion is not essential in life, People who dont worship are much happy and prospours in world. bye -Jainab

jainab says: July 15, 2015 at 10:34 am

I am a sunni muslim girl and I live in relation ship with a hindu guy. now I want to marry him, should I convert or change my name, pl suggest, I feel more comfortable with this guy and in his community other than my community, asslam. -Jainab

ahmad noor says: July 15, 2015 at 1:47 pm

jainab some questions : to be a muslim, dose it mean any thing to you?
Do you really believe in Allah our unique god who will meet us in Judgement Day after death??
If you do ….do you think this relation which puts you against your Islam, unlike the Hindu as this relation dose not put him against his
deserve this sacrifice??? Do you think it is only a matter of comfort and we can complete our out of Islam what about children????? -Ahmad Noor

jainab says: July 16, 2015 at 1:25 am

Dear Ahmed, asslam,
i cant understand the meaning of sacrifise. why should i ruin my life.
next you questioned about my faith. Yes i am a follower of Islam, i love my faith, but i am not convinced with the rules and this sacrifise or qurbani or jihad type of activities.
i could not see any difference between Muslims and other except Muslims always talk about allaj, Islam, jihad etc, why in all over the world Muslims are involved in terror, i think Allah never like it to kill innocents either humans or animals.
if all kaynat is made by khufa tala, we have no right to destroy his world, either they have believe or not,
secondly after death who knows what will happen, why we do wrong things in his name.
we should give respect to his creations, may Allah guide me. khufa hafiz.

One thing more scholars like you always threaten us about dozakh,and this type of fear creation works you know very well. but now situtation has been changed Muslim girls are aware with education that your barbaric suggestion are anti Islam.
khufa raham kar rasta roshan Kate…aamin -Jainab

jainab says: July 17, 2015 at 8:00 am

Dear admin, i think this mr mac is a fruad, he is insisting that
there is nothing to eat than beef,
again he is supporting circumcisation,
in males and females, again he do not feel any wrong if a Hindu or Sikh girl marry Muslim, but he starts crying when a Muslim girl keeps relation with a guy of other caste, is this not double standard?
i never hated any other religion, b cause my opinion is that every religion goes to Allah pak, ways may differ. if you are a honest person you need to to worship, do your duties honestly, this is the biggest ibadat, why this mr mac is misguiding us, how can he or his ways can my life happier and prosperous.
i am young and
i want to fly like a bird,
i want to see the world,
i want to eat good food,
i want a peacefull society,
where i can here music of nature,
talk with good persons.
i don’t want to be prisnor, or
i don’t want to start my morning with cries of innocent animals,
i don’t want to live in an atmosphere where every time you are guided to do so or you do not do so, you should not or you should, i never found any type of anti Islamic activity in my parents home, but i also never found shakoon of a single minute.
we women were treated as slaves and prisoners,
every time we are watched, i don’t want to write my personal incidents faced by me, but i request you that please don’t misguide others. i don’t know what is zina, but i know that
every women in my community is a sex slave producing dozens of animals and satisfying men.
if any women speaks against this you pass out Fzatea to sangsaar her. what is this? i am sorry if my words have gave you tease pl forgive me. Thanks. khuda hafiz. -Jainab

jainab says: July 17, 2015 at 12:53 pm

Dear admn, this is my last post, i have earlier written that i am not a very high educated girl. There may be some wrong statements from me, i apolige for them. This writing skill i got by education given my employer bauji family.i got your site suddenly, while browsing, so i have written my problem. instrad of giving proper guidence all of you started giving lectures and technical theories. i know one thing, you will also realise, every where when a crime is done in my surroundings people say ..jaroor sala kai mulla hoga. This is the respect i am getting in my job place and my local area. i cant hide my name in office and can not justify any thing. i am badly confused and now i have decided to leave all these matters for Allah, time will decide, thanks a lot for hearing me… khuda hafiz. One thing also say that people like mac should not be allowed to spread poison in society, he is a devil in Islam. he says that he will not accept my greetins for holy id mubarq, i must say that till now i am a more honest Muslim as compared with him…….. -Jainab.

Mehar says: July 19, 2015 at 3:15 am

DEAR jainab, AT FIRST I WILL LIKE TO GREET YOU FOR showing strength against our thousand years old rules, which does not relevant in this era, religion has its own place, but we also have our life and we also want to live freely, why our parents and preachers treat us like dumbfools, I think their religious shopos should must be shut down.

i am not against islam or Hinduism or Christianity, we should honour all of them, but religion is a very much personal issue. after a particular age and getting education we should be allowed to live our life freely as in Europe and us. pl don’t go from this page or give me yor id ,I have to talk with you a lot. i read all of your conversation and it inspired me a lot. thanks and pl come back with new progress -mehar

jainab says: July 24, 2015 at 12:09 pm

Mr,mac.asslsm. I have an objection on your words, you used that jainan don’t get respect, do you know what is respect? you act like a jealous person, who don’t like laughing others. i never told a single word unconstitutional against you or any other male or female. Next people don’t hate me personally. they honour my struggle and encourage me by helping me. But i cant say my story personally to every one, listen now-

I am a recordkeeper in a private firm, my boss is a Hindu. Hence i had a very small qualification, i don’t got job anywhere, after death of my local parents, it was very necessary for me to get a job. i came to know about the vacancy in this co. i applied there they called me for interview but i failed, tears came to my eyes because. Every job wants experience and higher qualification, when i was going towards mingate, this gentleman. Entered, 4persons fere following him, i came to know by security guard that he was the owner, Allah knows what came to my mind, i followed him and overtaked him rapidly, he asked his followers about me doing nonsense, they asked me that why i was running. So badly. i replied that i only want to meet the boss. They talked with boss and told me to wait at reception. after two or more hours i was called. i saw my application was lying on table with a mark rejected. My hopes gone and i began to cry, my boss told me to sit down and called boy for water. after getting some relaxation he asked me about such behavior. i told him my whole story. He told me to —–Go to your home, and don’t talk with anybody about all this conversation. i will try my best to help you. I requested him that i don’t want financial help, i only want to stand on my own feets, He assured me, after 5 days i got a call from his office to join. my boss said that hence today you are not fit for this job but I saw a confidence and honesty on your face, so i give you this job you will be under a trainer for 6 months, thus i got this job.

In whole i mean to say that jainab as an individual gets respect and love from all around. But when a matter comes as Muslim ever one tries to keep distance from me, When any body talks about any antisocial activity they must involve my community. As we are so bad, being a muslims it becomes difficult to stay there, i don’t want to tell more because when someone write a word against Muslims, how Mr mac you reacts, imagine what happens to me when i have to become a part of antimuslim conversation, and mostly talks are based upon facts, so please don’t lead to our community in a dark, if you say you are younger than me, its our duty to live in society by giving respect to ever ones faith, criticism is not the way of living, you shuld not comment everone showing that you are a genius, there are so many boys who can reply you in your language, but no one has time for such activities, give your suggestions and reaction keeping an eye on humanity, I see everywhere you (mac) are criticising. To Hindus quoting their holy books, suggesting Muslims thru holy quran, and so on. Please for Allah sake don’t do so, i am obliged by so many Hindus, how can i say them wrong persons.

I never found telling a boy to kill Muslims. but in my childhood i heard so many times that these kafirs should must be slaughtered, jab tak ye rahenge hamari garibi door nahi hogi, you only talk about books, but i have seen this world thru eyes of a Muslim as well as a young girl having no guardian or godfather, so everything in limit only can be justified, don’t try to give booster dosages, it will the increase the problem. This is my view. Pl think upon this. -Jainab

jainab says: July 25, 2015 at 12:21 pm

Dear mac, tomorrow is Sunday,i have to talk. With my b,f. due to shortage of time i cant reply you point wise, but one thing you should accept. That due to people. like you my community. is going in back gear,instead of going forward we are. going backwards you say yourself a scholar of every. religion, ok ,i agree,you are aware. that we Muslims. are world s second largest community, you will must agree it, then please tell how many Muslims are now doing well for their related countries, in area of science, technology, humanity, and so on, earlier you nattered about some rulers, you are right ,i cant oppose it, but you should know that we are beggers in all these fields, all due to this that you people always keep our society in namaj, burka, holy Quran, hadith etc. We have no time for our society. County, next yasterdsy you praised about a girl wearing Hizab selected. for civil service, i greet him, but today what supreme court has told, also consider, If a other community person adopts Islam you ale starts highlighting that as Avery important news, but when 100 peoples are slaughtered by Muslims you never condemn. whats this,

ok you said about respect. can you tell me that in which country in entire world you being smuslim are welcomed. its shamefull, even famous star Shahrukh khan was also insulted on immigration at us as well as our former President Hon a.k.kalam was also misbehaved on the airport only due to their community, hence i have no so much knowledge. Of various Incidents, i only quoted two, there may be thousands such cases, in spite of all these you day that you are getting respect, what a joke, dear come out of your room and see what our community is doing and what is our goodwill, Arabs are criticizing. You, Pakistanis. Are saying you of second grade, Americans are against you europians are against us, what are we doing, Even us president Obama adopted Christianity, no one likes us because we are nowhere in a good society, always blaming others, insecured and doing evils, analyze yourself honestly.

One thing more i don’t want to listen a comment against our p.m, our history, our other communities. Of society, because i am a proud indian this is the country, who allowed me to live freely, express my views, living a peaceful life, you talk about dalits, Brahmins, Hindu women, christians, sikhs but never talked about my community. In your eyes every Muslim is doing right, and all Muslims who live according to holy qurans teacings, will go to paradise, do you know that Muslims all over the world are living in hell. Only you know about after death, but when we are alive why we are so ugly. Where i am concerned my motive is that my neighbours are my parents, relatives, my religion is to help the needy, never go against your society, i always try that no one in my office or my society where i live may hurt due to my any activity, they don’t know me as a Muslim, they know me as a daughter of my expired parents, and call me jini.

again you stated that in any good residential society Muslims wont get flat, yes it is true even in Muslim dominated area a new Muslim outsider have to face problems in getting flat or room on rent, or purchase, this is the goodwill we have earned, in Muslim areas they say na Jane kaisa admi hogs, apun ko bhi mareayega, this is feeling a local honest citizen always live in fear only due to activities of my community. Members.so you should be alert, these all are happening. Only due to kattar people like you always shouting Islam khatre Mein hai. Balance in my next mail wait. -Jainab

Jainab says: August 10, 2015 at 11:32 am

Dear admin,thanks a lot for your suggestion.yesterday we both spent a very good time,I want to tell one thing that –i will never insist my b/f to convert,nor i suggest.He is a very well educated boy,doing job in a mnc,at a very senior position, It will be purely his decision,that how we can go forward without any problem,yesterday he decided to inform his parents.I came to know that he is the only son of his parents,his parents live in a rural area of UP.his father is sarpanch of his town,they have lots of land and they are involved in agriculture .Further if there will be any remarkable progress,i will must inform you.Thanks again…Jainab

jainab says: August 25, 2015 at 10:35 am

Dear admin,

Hi. Its a matter of great surprise, that all Hindu boys are bad, but after conversation to Islam they becomes good human beings. What a joke?

Secondly if all Muslims are good,
Who is responsible for my mothers death?
Who is responsible for my exploitation?
Where was mac and his teachings?
When i was wandering heither and thither without shelter, without food, no Muslim godfather helped me, where was our holy leaders?
When i went to a mosque, they tried to abuse me.
Nobody gave a small bit of food, except their ugly eyes and abusing notes.

Mac says he never suffered hunger, that’s why he is teaching this way. but i know what is hunger, if you don’t get food for continues 5 days, you always remember Allah tala, and pray for help, and you are not heard, what will you do. No body will answer, every body knows the holy teachings are very good, but only people having stomach full can follow and discuss on these topics, A hungry person needs food , not teachings, Thus it becomes very simple that religion is a secondary matter, some people do not agree with me, but when some one has to face situation like me, he will automatically came to know the realities of life, and life is more important than religion.

One thing more people who helped me and adopted me as their own daughter, with my Muslim background, should i regard them or not? should i say them kafir? One guy who is smart kind hearted and earning well, always helping me in every part of life, should i blackmail him to convert, because this is the only way for me?

I humbly oppose these opinions and suggestions. My own life and my iman is more important than being a 100% Muslim, and i am proud of this decision. Thanks…..Jainab.

jainab says: August 27, 2015 at 12:36 pm

Dear brother Mav,asslam,First thing a want to clarify that i am not a converted Muslim,nor my biological parents family.we are very much traditional Muslims and my forefathers hailed from Iran.My parents follow their traditional Islamic rules,which they are following from decades,They never gone to a moulana for religious clarification.Only on particular event some Aalim was called from nearby mosque,that’s it.pl note that we are Sunni Muslim,majority of Iranian are Shiya.It is not only in my family,but when you visit a traditional big Muslim family,you can easily feel,the differences between new born baby and a fully matured person.They don’t like to take holy suggestions for their day to day workings.A system or a rule which they are practising from generations cant be changed.No one has right to interfere in family matters,and no one outsider can know,what is going inside. The purpose of writing all these is this that you can be aware of my background,You will say i am pointing you,its not true,without knowing general facts about a traditional Muslim family,your comments are worthless.Now i come to the next point.

you wrote that all Hindu boys are not bad,as well as all Muslims are also not good,it means in every community there are two types of people 1.Bad 2.good.but earlier in your previous post you wrote that humanity is in Islam, antihuman person can not be a Muslim,Now from where these bad Muslims came.and as you said all Hindu boys are not bad,than what is the need of his conversation into Islam.I think its better to marry a wise,honest,educated good boy instead of a zahil,dishonest Muslim boy.I think every reader will favour my this opinion.

Next you are not responsible for my sorrows,nor you are responsible for my beloved mothers death.in previous post that was my cry.but the main reason behind her death was only Islamic rules,that a male can marry as many times he wish,but at a single time only four.That is reason behind all these antifemale activities,male don’t bother about their wife because they have options,they have multiple choices,so if one wife is dying or she is sick,does effects them. second point is that in our religion a female cant treated by a male doctor,Hence there wasn’t a lady doctor in my town my mother was never treated,her disease was never identified,only she was ordered to rotate her holy tasbeeh,and one day she was burried in our family graveyard along with her that tasbeeh,what happened?..nothing no one filled pain,except me,my new step mother was ready for filling space,after days of sorrow she came and every thing was over.But it was not for me,

All these filled a hate and poison in my mind against evils of my religion.Now you will say i am continusely writing against Islam.that’s not true,I never thought against my religion and my community,but its true that i am not against other communities or religion.I learned all these humanity,nationality,kindness etc from my adopted patents after escaping from my parents jail,If had not did so,This conversation between you and me was not happened.The writings are for a small clarification,need not any bookish quotes or teachings,It becomes very long so your other queries will also be replied very soon.Khuda Hafiz…..Jainab.

jainab says: December 20, 2015 at 5:51 am

Dear mac.asslam.I am very much surprised after reading your posts.what type of person you are?you always pick some points to condemn other religions.Its not fair.your mentality of intolerance and criticising others to prove them inferior community,leads extremisms in the society.such activities are anti social.In my last post I simply written about a fast,whicch we both kept .It was simply a demo of love,faith,and dedication.nothing with religion.After completing this fast.the satisfaction,happiness and mental glory which I felt,can’t be imagined by people like you.This all was not forced to me,it was purely my decision to express my love and affection to each other.I don’t want to argue with you but as an ordinary Indian Muslim I will must oppose your criticism of our other fellows.You are not the biggest scholar of all religions.As you are expert in searching religious matters on internet and then offering selected matters as per your convenience,I only request you,please don’t spread religious extremism and hate in our society.we only need love and tolerance for each other.You are not the godfather of all Muslims around the world.That’s all…Khuda hafiz…..Jainab.


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