In muslim community women are treated very badly

Sabana Matlub said: June 5, 2012 at 8:43 pm

Religion is a man made process of life and whereas humanity and mankind are morals of almighty.
Hi Shamim, Take a bold step to marry Rahul. I am too a muslim but married a Hindu guy, very happy with him. In muslim community women are treated very badly, restricted their freedom of education, movement, job and always insecurity of life being divorced at any time. Get your marriage registered under special marriage act 1954 immediately.

Dont believe those who are misguiding you to marry a muslim boy. Take it granted you will be treated very badly and one day left by him. – Sabana.

Admin asked:

Sabana, thanks for sharing your life story. This creates lots of questions that other youths may benefit to know.

Do you consider your marriage a Hindu-Muslim marriage with equality? How long have you been married? Did you ever tried to convert your husband to Islam? Did he or his family tried to convert you to Hinduism? Do you take part in a Hindu pooja (like SRK)? Do you know your marriage is not valid according to Islamic beliefs? Do you live in a big city? and which country? Do you have kids? What will you teach your kids about the Judgment Day? Koranic teachings on Hindus? Is there only ONE God, that is Allah and in the direction of Saudi Arabia? Can Allah be in your Hindu family’s home and Hindu temples? Are Hindu Murtis idols? What other differences did you found between two religions?

Sabana’s replied: June 6, 2012 at 10:48 pm

Thanks for the query raised by you. I got married about 3 years back and presently working in USA as software engineer. I have a loving son. I have not converted to Hinduism and my husband also not converted in Islam but we respect religious sentiments of each other. My other sisters are married in muslim families as per social bindings but leading a very miserably life. Husbands are disrespectful, not allowing sisters to move freely, get higher education or work to improve financial conditions, always keeping them in burqa and self (both the brother inlaws) having extra marital affairs with so called cousins.

Hindus are more open minded, liberal and respectful, always sharing with their wives important decisions.

I have to help my sisters financially for schooling of their kids, which my husband never mind. Religion is a man made process of life and whereas humanity and mankind are be morals of almighty, which is expressed in different terms by different castes, creeds and communities.

Further to your query, about taking part in Pooja etc., yes I do take part (in Hindu rituals) and when there is a Ramadan, I take fast, my husband help me. In India, so many high profile girls like sister of Chief Minister of J&K, India, married to Sachin Pilot, Salman Khans sister married to Agnihotri, Sunil Dutt’s wife also Muslim and so many, must be in thousands. Famous actors mothers were muslim like Govinda, Mahesh Bhatt, etc.

It is 100% correct that woman folk enjoy lot of freedom in Hindu community whereas in Muslim community women are not allowed to be at par with males.

Also read: 45.1% of Muslim girls marry out side their faith, Convert to Islam for the heck of it!, Madiha, Islamic Women Today, Hindu-Muslim marriages, Hindu girl, Muslim girl, Hindu boy, Muslim boy,

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47 Comments

  • Uzeyr
    April 30, 2015 5:14 am

    I knew a girl in college (Pakistan) who told me herself that she used to use guys who really liked her. Secretly she knew they liked her and played dirty. Then they’re the attention seeking girls! This sympathy game is all crap, don’t buy into it. After marriage some men are nice to women some aren’t, before marriage ALL women are bad to guys. Old fashioned dirty politics brother. Because we don’t want to lower ourselves to that level.

  • Senaida Schwarts
    March 25, 2013 4:06 pm

    Divorce can be a tumultuous time and if not managed properly, can be one of the most financially devastating life events. The process can be emotional and intense and the financial decisions you make during this time might be some of the most important economic decisions of your life. It is imperative to understand your complete financial situation. Knowledge and preparation will be crucial to your creating a sound financial agreement.

  • Elena Hohner
    December 10, 2012 1:46 am

    nobody ever wants to get divorce but sometimes it is inevitable.

  • Varghese
    August 6, 2012 5:41 am

    Dear Brothers/Sisters, Why are you all getting very angry when responding to heart feelings of the person opposite you? We are not living in 1st or 19th century. Let us pray and hope for a better world, where we all live as good human beings. Let everyone have their freedom to think,act and express their thoughts. Let everyone take their own decision in their life. Let us not bring religions into our developing relations. After all no one is born as Hindu,Muslim, Christian etc…we all came out of the womb naked without even a name!!! Unfortunately, we all born to certain parents, who happened to inherit the teachings (religious/other) and cultures from their parents. We are victims of their hereditary.

    So all of you cool down and settle down with your work; no hard feelings. Let us think freely, and take our own decisions in our life. Let no ‘religious” madness come into our life.

    All the best to all of you. Be happy.

  • Saul Brophy
    July 9, 2012 5:32 am

    Divorce is not always good. You should frequently work out first the problems in your marriage before settling into divorce. In asian countries, divorce is almost completely unheard of considering that they have lots of patience on their marriage. ,;:,,

  • Aryan Dude
    July 7, 2012 10:14 am

    To Fanatic Muslims see for your self what Muslim girls say about your Peaceful brothers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDbMurvaDPA&feature=related

    You guys are hippocritic, quran says something else, you do something else we non muslim see the truth.

  • paki_girl
    July 1, 2012 4:49 pm

    Hello so called Indian,

    In fact you are coworker of Hakkani group of Taliban, believing women to be used for sex, committing attrocities on them and forcing them in to prostitution centers of Karachi, Peshawar,and Lahore. You people have abducted thousands of innocent girls and talking about religious guidlines of islam. You have born from a woman also. Understanding sentiments of girls who are forced to wear burka in 44Deg.temp. can you do?

  • The Jew
    June 24, 2012 7:57 pm

    Religion of piece does this to non muslim girls, even worst than what they do to muslim girls

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2141930/The-Rochdale-sex-ring-shows-horrific-consequences-Britains-Islamophobia-witch-hunt.html

    I m awaited standard answer, ” dont judge all Muslim by what few do” …for those muslim who wants to say this. 99.9% means “all” for us. You bas***ds only do this to non muslim girls. You and your religion only teaches this, and dont you dare quote your quran, all books say good things, instead show some good examples your muslim brothers (may) have done.

  • June 24, 2012 6:49 pm

    Hello socalled Sunil, you are not a Hindu but a Talibani.
    You believe in depriving women from their legitimates rights and yourselves keeping 4 wives in the name of islam.

  • June 24, 2012 3:33 pm

    Certainly Sunil is not a Hindu but a hard core Talibani, who enjoys all sorts of pleasure from women community and in return torture them. Why dont you remember that you were born from the same female community,keeping you in the womb for 9 months.I know much more than you about Hindu religion. You are a blot on the name of humanity.

  • The jew
    June 23, 2012 7:18 pm

    Most peaceful religion on earth
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtRVugNjcY

  • ajay
    June 23, 2012 2:10 am

    tell me before….what is the Hindu religion,????
    you can read everyone book.Their is no name about HINDU.
    Hindu means HINUSTANE,
    so they don’t have original name…so how can compare a person is original.?????

    • The jew
      June 23, 2012 7:38 pm

      You are just a hindu by birth. Brother you dont know whats happening to your “Hinduism” go and find what your Muslim friends do you will soon come to know.

  • rohit
    June 17, 2012 1:28 pm

    Hi, I have read most of the comments well we all know that these is wrong each of one is pointing out so many points and views but has any one thought of any solution for the mental and physical torture a women suffers in both religion.Come on guys religion is important but treat each and every one equal.
    One thing each one did was very nice most of you started fighting.Chill guys fight to change the situation…..not make it worst

  • MuslimWomen
    June 13, 2012 6:40 pm

    I know how our muslim girls are killed, honor killing, forced marriage, islamic beating, many wives, triple divorce, isolation, no freedom at all. the list is big… Many have come forward. We need to have law that protects muslim women from all such disgusting bad things. Why dont the men understand women need freedom and support, not killing and beating and treated like a property. THIS MUST END.

    • Indian
      June 14, 2012 12:38 pm

      Killing or mistreating women has nothing to do with Quran or Islam. Dont confuse between Culture and Islam. The millions of fetuses are aborted in India are mainly by Hindus, dowry deaths are mainly by hindus, polygamy is more in Hindus then Muslims in india.
      It has more to do with educations and I think it is needed for people like you as well. Please educate yourself……reading newspapers and schooling does not necessarily mean education

      • Indiantoindian
        June 17, 2012 3:44 pm

        Stupid guy..lives in a bubble. All things you mentioned are done by muslims alone. Hindus are much better than you.

      • Satyen
        July 17, 2012 12:19 am

        Can you quote the sources of your data? You are trying to befooling the educating Hindus who have informations. They are not like the semi literate audience of your role model Zakir Naik who tells that the population of women is less than that of men. Similarily, how many Hindus do you know with about 15 wives and 8 children as are with Daad Mohammed Abdul Rahman- From, United Arab Emirates (60-year-old Daad Mohammed Murad Abdul Rahman is a one legged man with 15 wives). If you consider it as an stray incident, think again, and see the following link given below:

        http://topten10most.blogspot.com/2011/05/top-ten-10-men-with-most-wives-and.html

        Don’t bring the Zakir’s pet argument in favour of polygamy – Shri Krishna which has been debunked at http://www.agniveer.com

      • siddharth
        July 29, 2012 6:02 am

        yes i agree we have female foeticide , dowry deaths and other forms of crime against women in India but they are not sanctioned by our religion they are crimes for which we have stringent laws and people committing those crimes can be severely punished unlike Islam where a father accused of killing his own daughter can proudly shout in court that he did such a disgusting crime to save his” Islamic honour”!!!!!! fucking mullah retards!!!! how can anyone kill his own son or daughter or wife or torture them!!!!! fucking Muslim lunatics!!!

        • azzaro
          January 26, 2017 1:35 am

          here here
          & thank you.

  • suma usa
    June 11, 2012 3:20 pm

    Men should be allowed sex slaves and female prisoners could do the job – and all this from a WOMAN politician from Kuwait

    Read more:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000292/Men-allowed-sex-slaves-female-prisoners-job–WOMAN-politician-Kuwait.html#ixzz1xVvixbaJ

    Although Mutairi’s comment may sound outrageous to many Muslim women, she is actually stating what Muhammad practiced and preached. When she says it is not forbidden she has several verses of the Quran to bring as evidence. Muhammad had many sex slaves and allowed his men to have sex with captive women even when these women were already married. Since the teachings of the Quran are deemed to be valid until the end of the world, slavery and sex slavery will be practiced again should Islam become the dominant religion. The only reason slavery is not widely practiced today in Islamic countries is because it won’t be tolerated by the non-Muslim world. Once this world is conquered slavery will be back and humanity will revert to savagery

  • Indian-2
    June 10, 2012 2:52 pm

    Specially Muslim girls are killed to save honor

    Surah 4, An-Nisā’ (The Women), verses 34-35 state that men are in charge of women, being their protectors and maintainers. What happens if they fail in their duty to keep them out of harm’s way or women are simply unwilling to reconcile? The pressure of the Muslim community is on men to control the wives and daughters entrusted to them. In order to keep the honour of the family, be it for cultural or religious reasons, the strain could become so great that murder seems to be the only answer.

    • siddharth
      July 29, 2012 6:25 am

      i fully agree with Indian 2 !!! islam is a shithole religion!!! imagine in islam a father can order the death of his own daughter!!!

      • Ayub
        November 3, 2012 12:47 pm

        Hi siddharth hop you good 🙂 Islam is not shithole bro i am also a Muslim but against those who done that things you said 🙂 our Prophet didnt hit any woman and said lie in his whole life ppl you said about above ar not the proper muslims theyre all illiterates bro and Please dont say anything about any religious bcz every religion have solution of some probs of humans life but the bigest thing is that Humanity is biger than every religion God says in Quran that I will forgive my own rights on humans but never forgive Humans rights even they forgive each other 🙂

        • azzaro
          January 26, 2017 1:38 am

          hi Ayub, so why sanction the killing of your own children?

          • azzaro
            January 26, 2017 1:42 am

            I see that you are against some of your religious teachings, but why try to defend it if you feel it is unfair?

  • suma
    June 10, 2012 11:25 am

    Wafa Sultaan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Taslima Nasreen are all muslim women from diffrenr parts of the world, google the names. They were targets and hence they ran away and have been living in non muslim nations. Muslim women and men enjoy freedom in non muslim lands.

    On a sidenote, last week, Delhi court made 15 as the marriage age for muslimgirls while retaining 18 for other Indians. This shows how oppressive muslim men are to marry off their children and start abusing them at 15. They are following in the footsteps of their prophet obviously, no one can save these girls who will become mothers by 16 even in 2012!! No muslim organization in India raised objection to the ruling, i think they like oppressing women, as simple as that.

    • June 10, 2012 1:50 pm

      What is the minimal age to convert to Islam? More specifically…can a 16 years old Hindu girl convert to Islam and marry a Muslim?

    • Indian
      June 11, 2012 8:11 pm

      Suma,

      Wafa sultan and others are Fakes…..if you want to know about islam ask a Muslim…..similarly if you want to know about India…dont ask a pakistani………..You are just trying to defame islam by using quotes from different people.

      But if you want i can quote you the Vedas some of the most disgusting things which you have ever heard in your life. let me know if you want me to quote it for you. I am not defaming your religion but will only quote from the vedas

      • Indiantoindian
        June 17, 2012 3:46 pm

        hahahaha Who ever (even muslims) when say truth about what muslims do..in this guys eyes are fake..You are fooling yourself.

      • Satyen
        July 17, 2012 12:04 am

        @Indian,

        Correct. To know Islam, read the books written by the Muslims and then apply your logic on them. Similarily, you should not propose to teach anybody about the Vedas as you are not a Hindu. Moreover, it requires logical thinking to understand the Vedas as no blind faith is required to believe somebody unlike Islam. Anybody who wants to know about the Vedas, should go to http://www.agniveer.com, not to some body who knows only cut and paste.

  • Indian
    June 8, 2012 5:08 pm

    Rahul,

    If you feel that Sunil is not a hindu….then how can you say that sabana is a muslim?
    Sabana is a fake…she is not muslim…..firstly…in muslim we have shabana…not sabana….secondly she says that muslims do not educate their children ….then how is it that she is educated? The first verse of Quran is about education…to seek knowledge.

    To find put a person is a muslim or not is very simple……Just ask them about Islam……and a muslim will give very convincing answer…where as people who fake their names to muslims names will give gibberish or answers which are very long…something similarly to what the admin writes about Islam. The whole understanding of Islam by non Muslim is mostly wrong…and others who know the truth convert to Islam….like me.

    • Rahul_dd@yahoo.com
      June 8, 2012 10:22 pm

      Brother Indian,

      First read abut hinduism and then comment about how we know who is hindu or not. Understand what veda says about god and women, women are given the highest respect read geeta to understand how hindus treat women. And on sabana or shabana better ask her why she chose that. plz refrain from commenting on Hindus if you dont know hinduism.

      • Satyen
        July 16, 2012 11:54 pm

        It’s very hard to convince the Muslims that the Hindus worship only one God having different manifestations. They are brainwashed people and have been conditioned to think bad about others simply due to their belief system. On the other hand, Hindus in general, judge the people of other faith based on their behaviour. The reason is Hindus think all religions equal but what about the followers of other religions such as Islam? I think now all religions are different that think others are going to hell.

        • July 17, 2012 12:03 am

          Hindus are pluralist. However, all three Abrahamics (Christians, Jews and Muslims) are exclusivist. It all start from the first two of the Ten Commandments….”I am the Lord your God. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God… punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and fourth generations of those who reject me.” Exodus 20:3-5. There is only one God, and that is mine!

    • Indian-2
      June 10, 2012 2:48 pm

      Hi Indian

      Here is your proof for “Muslim community women are treated very badly ” from the peaceful book.

      Below are 6 English versions of the Quran verse 4:34. This passage lays the foundation for wife beating. I provided all these to show their similarity. These translations are all from recognized scholars. I have corrected some archaic spelling.

      Men are superior to women on account of the qualities with which God has gifted the one above the other, and on account of the outlay they make from their substance for them. Virtuous women are obedient, careful, during the husband’s absence, because God has of them been careful. But chide those for whose refractoriness you have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and scourge them: but if they are obedient to you, then seek not occasion against them: verily, God is High, Great! Rodwell[1]

      Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme. Dawood[2]

      Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded. As for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great. Pickthall[3]

      Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God’s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All high, All great. Arberry[4]

      Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. Shakir[5]

      Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whom part you fear disloyalty and ill conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance) for Allah is Most High, Great (above you all). Ali[6]

      Indian-2

    • Indian-2
      June 10, 2012 3:11 pm

      Top ten rules to prove the Quran oppress and insult muslim women

      10. A husband has sex with his wife, as a plow goes into a dirt field.

      The Quran in Sura (Chapter) 2:223 says:

      Your women are your fields, so go into your fields whichever way you like . . . . (MAS Abdel Haleem, The Qur’an, Oxford UP, 2004)

      We should make no mistake about this verse. It includes sexual positions. In a footnote to this verse, Haleem says that Muslims in Medina heard from the Jews that “a child born from a woman approached from behind would have a squint.”

      The hadith are the reports of Muhammad’s words and actions outside of the Quran. Two reliable hadith collectors and editors are Bukhari (d. 870), Muslim (d. 875). After the Quran, the hadith come second in importance and sacredness among the vast majority of Muslims around the world.

      9. Husbands are a degree above their wives.

      The Quran in Sura 2:228 says:

      . . . Wives have the same rights as the husbands have on them in accordance with the generally known principles. Of course, men are a degree above them in status . . . (Sayyid Abul A’La Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur’an, vol. 1, p. 165)

      Gender inequality shows up in a theological context. This hadith shows that the majority of the inhabitants of hell are women.

      8. A male gets a double share of the inheritance over that of a female.
      The Quran in Sura 4:11 says:

      The share of the male shall be twice that of a female . . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 311)

      7. A woman’s testimony counts half of a man’s testimony.

      The Quran in Sura 2:282 says:

      And let two men from among you bear witness to all such documents [contracts of loans without interest]. But if two men be not available, there should be one man and two women to bear witness so that if one of the women forgets (anything), the other may remind her. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 205).

      It seems that the foundational reason for having two women witnesses is that one of the women may “forget” something. This goes to the nature of womankind. Philosophers teach us that one of the main differences between animals and humans lies in humankind’s rationality. But this verse implies that a woman’s mind is weak.

      6. A wife may remarry her ex-husband if and only if she marries another man, they have sex, and then this second man divorces her.

      And if the husband divorces his wife (for the third time), she shall not remain his lawful wife after this (absolute) divorce, unless she marries another husband and the second husband divorces her. (In that case) there is no harm if they [the first couple] remarry . . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 165)

      The finally and absolutely divorced couple is not permitted to remarry each other unless she marries another man, they have sex, and he divorces her. Sura 2:230 engenders a divorce on the road to a possible reconciliation. Why should it be necessary to have the intervening steps of a second marriage and divorce before the first couple can work out their differences and get back together?

      5. Slave-girls are sexual property for their male owners.

      The Quran in Sura 4:24 says:

      And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands (as prisoners of war) . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 319).

      Sayyid Maududi (d. 1979), a highly respected traditional commentator and scholar, says in his comment on the verse that is it lawful for Muslim holy warriors to marry women prisoners of war even when their husbands are still alive. But what happens if the husbands are captured with their wives? Maududi cites a school of law that says Muslims may not marry them, but two other schools say that the marriage between the captive husbands and wives is broken (note 44). But why would a debate over this cruelty emerge in the first place? No sex or marriage should take place between married female prisoners of war and their captors. In fact, no sex should take place between women captives and their Muslim overlords. But Islam traffics in injustice too often.

      Islam allows deep immorality with women who are in their most helpless condition. This crime is reprehensible, but Allah wills it nonetheless—the Quran says so.

      4. A man may be polygamous with up to four wives.
      The Quran in Sura 4:3 says:

      And if you be apprehensive that you will not be able to do justice to the orphans, you may marry two or three or four women whom you choose. But if you apprehend that you might not be able to do justice to them, then marry only one wife, or marry those who have fallen in your possession. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 305)

      The clause “marry those who have fallen in your possession” means slave-girls who were captured after a war. Men may “marry” them because slaves do not incur very much expense, not as much as free women do. This means that the limit on four wives is artificial. Men could have sex with as many slave-girls as they wanted.

      3. A Muslim polygamist may simply get rid of one of his undesirable wives.

      It is not within your power to be perfectly equitable in your treatment with all your wives, even if you wish to be so; therefore, (in order to satisfy the dictates of Divine Law) do not lean towards one wife so as to leave the other in a state of suspense. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 381)

      Maududi provides an interpretation of the verse (vol. 1, pp. 383-84, note 161). He writes:

      Allah made it clear that the husband cannot literally keep equality between two or more wives because they themselves cannot be equal in all respects. It is too much to demand from a husband that he should mete out equal treatment to a beautiful wife and to an ugly wife, to a young wife and to an old wife, to a healthy wife and to an invalid wife, and to a good natured wife and to an ill-natured wife. These and like things naturally make a husband more inclined towards one wife than towards the other.

      2. Husbands may hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear highhandedness in their wives (quite apart from whether they actually are highhanded—as if domestic violence in any form is acceptable).

      The Quran in Sura 4:34 says:

      4:34 . . . If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great. (Haleem, emphasis added)

      The hadith says that Muslim women in the time of Muhammad were suffering from domestic violence in the context of confusing marriage laws:

      Rifa’a divorced his wife whereupon ‘AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. ‘Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah’s Apostle came, ‘Aisha said, “I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!” (Bukhari, emphasis added)

      1. Mature men are allowed to marry prepubescent girls.

      The Quran in Sura 65:1, 4 says:

      65:1 O Prophet, when you (and the believers) divorce women, divorce them for their prescribed waiting-period and count the waiting-period accurately . . . 4 And if you are in doubt about those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, (you should know that) their waiting period is three months, and the same applies to those who have not menstruated as yet. As for pregnant women, their period ends when they have delivered their burden. (Maududi, vol. 5, pp. 599 and 617, emphasis added)

      Maududi correctly interprets the plain meaning of verse 4, which appears in the context of divorce:

      Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl at this age but it is permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Qur’an has held as permissible. (Maududi, vol. 5, p. 620, note 13, emphasis added

      • Indian
        June 11, 2012 8:04 pm

        This is what vedas say about women………….no wonder millions of girls are killed every year…it all comes from Vedas…..which most of the people never read.

        ‘Rig Veda’ itself says that a women should beget sons. The newly married wife is blessed so that she could have 10 sons. So much so, that for begetting a son, ‘Vedas’ prescribe a special ritual called ‘Punsawan sanskar’ (a ceremony performed during third month of pregnancy). During the ceremony it is prayed:

        “Almighty God, you have created this womb. Women may be born somewhere else but sons should be born from this womb” – Atharva Ved 6/11/3

        “O Husband protect the son to be born. Do not make him a women” – Atharva Ved 2/3/23

        In ‘Shatpath Puran (shatpath Brahman)’ a sonless women has been termed as unfortunate.

        ‘Rig Veda’ censures women by saying: “Lord Indra himself has said that women has very little intelligence. She cannot be taught” – Rig Ved 8/33/17

        At another place in Rig Veda it is written: “There cannot be any friendship with a women. Her heart is more cruel than heyna” – Rig Ved 10/95/15.

        ‘Yajur Ved (Taitriya Sanhita) “Women code says that the women are without energy. They should not get a share in property. Even to the wicked they speak in feeble manner” – Yajur Ved 6/5/8/2

        Shatpath Puran, preachings of the ‘Yajur Veda’ clubs women, ‘shudras'(untouchables), doga, crows together and says falsehood, sin and gloom remain integrated in them. (14/1/1/31)

        • IndianPeople
          June 13, 2012 6:21 pm

          @ (so called) Indian

          If your want to know about hinduism read bhagvat geeta and ramayan to understand the rich and peaceful culture, hinduism is the true religion and since the oldest of time. You are an ignorent non hindu who dont want to see truth as supreme god shiv wants the world to see. Thats why True hindus are the most intelligent and most peaceful. Ignorent people are just jealous of Hinduism and other peaceful religion and will die thinking jealousy. When you understand aryan religion you will be the fist one to convert.

          Your same islam brothers will kill you if you convert. By the way your are already dead from inside so it wont have any affect on you now.

          • Indian
            June 14, 2012 12:25 pm

            So you believe in Bhagwad Gita and ramayana? you believe in Shiva? what about other Gods? There are people who believe in Millions of Gods?
            The answer to your question is that not all Hindus are bad neither all Muslims or Christians or Jews are good or bad.

            The question is what are your fundamental beliefs about GOD

          • IndianPeople
            July 17, 2012 9:53 am

            @ Indian,

            You are wrong again, we hindus have more gods than islam, but whats your problem with that?, if we have several god? Did they harm muslims , or any one in any way? Then what is your point? Are you saying islam is best , others religions are idiot?

            Then you are mistaken my friend. You are wrong there too.

            Do good deeds and you could be god. Now you know why muslims like you fail with Hindus when debate on your stupid logic.

            Hinduism is peaceful the world knows it, islam is most violent, the world knows it, your propaganda does not changes the reality. If you say there are Hindu terrorism, Christian terrorist etc, they were created to teach lesson to muslim terrorist in there own language.

        • Satyen
          July 16, 2012 11:47 pm

          These are the translations from the evangelical westerners such as Grifith or Maxmuller with their proselytising intentions. Would you believe in the Quranic translations by such people? If not, why double standard? When others quote from Quaran, it is from well known Islamic clergy’s translations of the book. So, to be acceptable, put forth the Vedic translations by the scholars such as Dayananda. I know you have been debunked at the sight http://www.agniveer.com. I request others especially the Admin to go to the sight agniveer.com to know the status of women in the Vedas. I was also sick of listening these people’s babbling regarding the women in Vedas and Manusmriti. Now, I know the truth and satisfied.

  • sunil
    June 7, 2012 10:08 am

    In HINDU community women are treated very badly this is true fact

    • Rahul_dd@yahoo.com
      June 7, 2012 5:07 pm

      Sunil,

      You are not a hindu, using a fake name does not makes any difference, because you just spoke like a muslim fundamentalist who hates hindus. This shows that people like you will got any extent to suppress womens voice and freedom. More importantly muslim women. You sick psycho we are trying to have a talk here…so shutup.

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