Chinese Malaysian with Spanish-Moroccan Muslim

Sameer says: March 18, 2016 at 10:08 pm

HELLO, GLAD TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND SEEKING FOR A REAL QUICK HELP HERE.
MY FIANCEE CHINESE MALAYSIAN, IM SPANISH CITIZEN BUT MOROCCAN NATIONALITY MUSLIM, MY FIANCEE NOW IS PREGNANT, WE ARE GETTING MARRIED I HAVE ISSUE WITH VISA FOR RENEWING EVERY THREE MOUNTHS BY NOW, WHAT ARE OUR CHANCES TO MARY IN SINGAPORE AND APPLY A LONG TERM VISA IN MALAYSIA? WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF I SAID IM NOT MUSLIM AND MARRY HERE IN MALAYSIA?

WHY DOESNT THIS COUNTRY UNDERSTAND IF YOU WANT TO BE MUSLIM IT ONLY YOUR BUSINESS NOR ANYONE ELSE. I DONT WANT MY FIANCEE TO CONVERT TO NOTHING WITHOUT HER WILL. WHAT TO DO? I NEED A QUICK RESPOND THE TIME IS SHORT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH

I have no issue to lie and say that im not muslim in first place. Islam is in my heart and no one will take it from me. Please get back to me. -Sameer

Sameer says: March 20, 2016 at 8:55 pm
I have no issue to lie and say that im not muslim in first place. Islam is in my heart and no one will take it from me. Please get back to me.

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7 Comments

  • June 18, 2016 10:43 am

    Sameer,
    You said she is pregnant on March 18. Can you update us on your situation? Did she converted?

  • March 20, 2016 1:08 am

    Dear Sameer,
    We agree why government is meddling in your personal business. This Malaysian law is very unfair to interfaith couples.

    It is honorable that you do not wish to impose your religion on your wife/fiancee. However, you have very limited choices:
    1) Forget this love and you two be on your own ways (that is very difficult she being pregnant),
    2) She converts to Islam against her wishes or
    3) You convert to some other religion. With your Sameer (changed by admin for his privacy) name, your not believing Koran 24:30 (getting in relationship before marriage) and Spanish citizenship, you could say you are a Christian. Then all your problems are solved. Sorry, one or the other will have to lie if you wish to make it a reality.

    Let us know what else you wish to know.

    • Sameer
      March 20, 2016 8:55 pm

      I have no issue to lie and say that im not muslim in first place. Islam is in my heart and no one will take it from me. Please get back to me.

      • March 20, 2016 11:31 pm

        Do you have any Muslim name or parents Muslim name in your passport of any document submitted to Malaysia? Do your birth certificate identify you as a Muslim? If you have neutral names all along, then show that you are a Spanish Christian. These are all too risky propositions.

        Best would be to move back to Spain, then you don’t have to lie. Is that possible?

        • March 23, 2016 12:19 am

          Sameer,
          You have a very short timeline to decide for what you wish to do and for that reason we are concerned. We wish to work with you, can you get back? Read Malaysian marriage laws at https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=8828. Let us know how it will impact you?

          Can you ask your Muslim friends in Malaysia to show you their ID cards? Do all Muslim have to have ‘Islam’ written on their ID card or only local Sunni Muslims only? How Malaysian government will view you?

          Also go to a local marriage registration office and get application form. That should give you some idea for what will their expectatins.

          • Sameer
            March 23, 2016 11:31 pm

            Hello again. Glad to hear from you!
            Ok going to have to concentrate first in my stay here. I never over passed my visa in always been legal. That why I’m struggling going last week three days explaining and no sleep to renew my pass.
            I want any information for extending my visa if i buy a house or start a investment could i obtain a long extention.
            About the marriage were still the same not knowing what to do.. Considering example my fiancée get to convert
            What they will do to her? Must she change her name? Or just my last name enough that is XXXXX (deleted) –
            If they will only add my last name. Then i don’t see any issue to maintain her full name and the last name of mine..
            Will she have to get Muslim title in her IC OR PASSPORT. GET BACK TO ME AND THANK YOU.

          • March 24, 2016 9:16 am

            Dear Sameer,

            Once she convert to Islam, she will be 100% Muslim for ever, even after her death. If you are honest man, you should explain her all these in details.

            Once she takes Shahadah conversion, she will be legally a Muslim in Malaysia. She will have to change her name, her ID will say religion as “Islam”, and all her documents has to be changed accordingly. Lets assume if such marriage ends in two years, even after talaak (divorce), she will be stuck with Islam till her death. Even she marries a Buddhist in the future, that other person also has to convert to Islam. All their future children will be Muslim only, even they may practice Buddhism. Lets say after 60 years of her end of the first marriage (with Muslim) and spending rest of life as a Buddhist, she cannot have final rite as a Buddhist but Malay Sharia police will confiscate her dead boy from her Buddhist family and give a final Muslim rites. Does she understand all these?

            Please ask her to read these https://www.interfaithshaadi.org/?p=8641

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