Bar Mitzvah for Hindus?

It is Jewish traditions to have their children Bris and Bar Mitzvah ceremonies. The Bris (circumcision) is a religious ceremony performed on 8th day of childbirth. The Bar- (or Bat- for a girl) Mitzvah is a religious ritual performed at age of 12-13 to announce the child an adult Jew. The child has to commit to follow 613 mitzvoth (commandments) of Torah for his/her life.

Should there be a Bar Mitzvah for children from a Hindu-Jew marriage with equality? Unless the Hindu is fully convinced that his/her children must follow all 613 mitzvoth for their life, the Hindu probably should not commit for it for the following reasons: a) The Bar Mitzvah (just like other BBS; Baptism for Christianity and Sahadah/Sunat for Islam) is not a hollow ritual devoid of meaning, b) why to make lies and deception a foundation of your planned married life if you don’t have any intention to follow it, c) Bar Mitzvah ceremony is not really necessary by Jewish custom (1), and d) why impose a religious label on an interfaith child without his/her consent? Like what Barak Obama‘s parents did, why not let the interfaith child have an option to decide his or her own religion at age 21+?

LORD Krishna, a human form of LORD God?

Here we have listed Mitzvoth that may have a potential conflict with Hindu belief system or cultural values. The First and Second Commandments state there is only one God and praying to “other” gods is not acceptable. Is LORD Krishna the “other” god? There are about 40 out of 613 commandments on “idol” worship and not praying to Human form of the God; are Hindu Gods being worshipped false gods? There are about 25 out of 613 commandments on sex. Based on Indian culture, you may be uncomfortable discussing sex with a 12 years old girl in public. Further, there are about 80 out of 613 commandments on how to kill and eat animals; that a Hindu may wish to replace with one simple one – Do not eat animals!!

It is ultimately up to an interfaith couple to make an “informed” decision for their interfaith child.

A select mitzvoth relating to Hindus are listed here. Rest of mitzvoth can be viewed at Wikipedia.

Are Hindu Gods incarnations of the LORD God described in the Torah/Bible?

• 1: To know there is a God (yes, but do LORD Krishna, Ganesh and Goddess Laxmi qualify as the LORD God?)
• 2: Not to even think that there are other gods besides Him (This is the second of the Ten Commandment. If you pray to “other” God (like Krishna?), the jealous LORD God will punish parents for three to four generations.)
• 3: To know that He is One (yes, but can He have different forms, like Hindu Gods?)

Are Hindus idol worshippers?

There are about 40/613 Commandments against praying God in different forms.

Jain temples are full of Humanly figures made of smooth marble, are those idols?

• 24: Not to inquire into idolatry
• 25: Not to follow the whims of your heart or what your eyes see
• 27: Not to worship idols in the manner they are worshiped
• 28: Not to worship idols in the four ways we worship God
• 29: Not to make an idol for yourself
• 30: Not to make an idol for others
• 31: Not to make human forms even for decorative purposes (most Hindu Gods are given human forms!!)
• 32: Not to turn a city to idolatry
• 33: To burn a city that has turned to idol worship
• 34: Not to rebuild it as a city
• 35: Not to derive benefit from it
• 36: Not to missionize an individual to idol worship
• 37: Not to love the idolater
• 38: Not to cease hating the idolater
• 39: Not to save the idolater
• 40: Not to say anything in the idolater’s defense
• 41: Not to refrain from incriminating the idolater
• 42: Not to prophesize in the name of idolatry
• 43: Not to listen to a false prophet (are Hindu gurus false prophets?)
• 44: Not to prophesize falsely in the name of God
• 45: Not to be afraid of the false prophet

"Not to bow down before a smooth stone "

• 46: Not to swear in the name of an idol
• 50: Not to erect a pillar in a public place of worship
• 51: Not to bow down before a smooth stone (most Hindu Gods, including Shiv Linga, are made to smooth stone)
• 52: Not to plant a tree in the Temple courtyard (Hindus plant Tulsi in the temple)
• 53: To destroy idols and their accessories
• 54: Not to derive benefit from idols and their accessories
• 55: Not to derive benefit from ornaments of idols
• 56: Not to make a covenant with idolaters
• 57: Not to show favor to them
• 58: Not to let them dwell in the Land of Israel
• 59: Not to imitate them in customs and clothing
• 202: Not to drink wine poured in service to idols
• 527: Press the idolater for payment
• 548: The courts must hang those stoned for blasphemy or idolatry
• 595: Destroy the seven Canaanite nations
• 596: Not to let any of them remain alive
• 597: Wipe out the descendants of Amalek
• 598: Remember what Amalek did to the Jewish people
• 599: Not to forget Amalek’s atrocities and ambush on our journey from Egypt in the desert

Are Hindu parent comfortable talking about Sex?

People from Indian culture may not feel comfortable to ask a 12-13 years old to take these 25/619 oaths on sex related matters:
Jewish kids• 139: Not to have sexual relations with your mother
• 140: Not to have sexual relations with your father’s wife
• 141: Not to have sexual relations with your sister
• 142: Not to have sexual relations with your father’s wife’s daughter
• 143: Not to have sexual relations with your son’s daughter
• 144: Not to have sexual relations with your daughter
• 145: Not to have sexual relations with your daughter’s daughter
• 146: Not to have sexual relations with a woman and her daughter
• 147: Not to have sexual relations with a woman and her son’s daughter
• 148: Not to have sexual relations with a woman and her daughter’s daughter
• 149: Not to have sexual relations with your father’s sister
• 150: Not to have sexual relations with your mother’s sister
• 151: Not to have sexual relations with your father’s brother’s wife
• 152: Not to have sexual relations with your son’s wife
• 153: Not to have sexual relations with your brother’s wife
• 154: Not to have sexual relations with your wife’s sister
• 155: A man must not have sexual relations with an animal
• 156: A woman must not have sexual relations with an animal
• 157: A man must not have sexual relations with a man
• 158: Not to have sexual relations with your father
• 159: Not to have sexual relations with your father’s brother
• 160: Not to have sexual relations with someone else’s wife
• 161: Not to have sexual relations with a menstrually impure woman
• 175: Not to make pleasurable (sexual) contact with any forbidden woman
• 459: Observe the laws of impurity of a seminal emission (regular ejaculation, with normal semen)

Interfaith marriage:

• 162: Not to marry non-Jews (if you are asking an interfaith child to take this oath, why their parents had an interfaith marriage?)
• 163: Not to let Moabite and Ammonite males marry into the Jewish people
• 164: Not to prevent a third-generation Egyptian convert from marrying into the Jewish people
• 165: Not to refrain from marrying a third generation Edomite convert
• 166: Not to let a mamzer (a child born due to an illegal relationship) marry into the Jewish people
• 167: Not to let a eunuch marry into the Jewish people

Circumcision: Science or Superstition?

• 86: To circumcise all males on the eighth day after their birth (Even when there is no major scientific merit to circumcision? Read more here).

Marriage contract:

• 122: To marry a wife by means of ketubah and kiddushin (why one sided pre-nuptial agreement?)

Animal killing:

Hindu probably wishes not to kill any animal or wish the child to be a vegetarian. Do you still have to take these commandments?
• 168: Not to offer to God any castrated male animals
• 176: To examine the signs of animals to distinguish between kosher and non-kosher
• 177: To examine the signs of fowl to distinguish between kosher and non-kosher
• 178: To examine the signs of fish to distinguish between kosher and non-kosher
• 179: To examine the signs of locusts to distinguish between kosher and non-kosher
• 180: Not to eat non-kosher animals
• 181: Not to eat non-kosher fowl
• 182: Not to eat non-kosher fish
• 183: Not to eat non-kosher flying insects
• 184: Not to eat non-kosher creatures that crawl on land
• 185: Not to eat non-kosher maggots
• 186: Not to eat worms found in fruit on the ground
• 187: Not to eat creatures that live in water other than (kosher) fish
• 188: Not to eat the meat of an animal that died without ritual slaughter
• 189: Not to benefit from an ox condemned to be stoned
• 190: Not to eat a limb torn off a living creature
• 191: Not to eat blood
• 192: Not to eat certain fats of clean animals
• 193: Not to eat the sinew of the thigh
• 194: Not to eat mixtures of milk and meat cooked together
• 195: Not to cook meat and milk together
• 203: To ritually slaughter an animal before eating it
• 204: Not to slaughter an animal and its offspring on the same day
• 205: To cover the blood (of a slaughtered beast or fowl) with earth
• 206: To send away the mother bird before taking its children
• 207: To release the mother bird if she was taken from the nest
• 273: To give the foreleg, two cheeks, and abomasum of slaughtered animals to a Kohen
• 336: Not to dedicate a blemished animal for the altar
• 337: Not to slaughter it
• 338: Not to sprinkle its blood
• 339: Not to burn its fat
• 340: Not to offer a temporarily blemished animal
• 341: Not to sacrifice blemished animals even if offered by non-Jews
• 342: Not to inflict wounds upon dedicated animals
• 343: To redeem dedicated animals which have become disqualified
• 344: To offer only animals which are at least eight days old
• 345: Not to offer animals bought with the wages of a harlot or the animal exchanged for a dog
• 347: To salt all sacrifices
• 348: Not to omit the salt from sacrifices
• 349: Carry out the procedure of the burnt offering as prescribed in the Torah
• 350: Not to eat its meat
• 351: Carry out the procedure of the sin offering
• 352: Not to eat the meat of the inner sin offering
• 353: Not to decapitate a fowl brought as a sin offering
• 354: Carry out the procedure of the guilt offering
• 355: The Kohanim must eat the sacrificial meat in the Temple
• 356: The Kohanim must not eat the meat outside the Temple courtyard
• 357: A non-Kohen must not eat sacrificial meat
• 358: To follow the procedure of the peace offering
• 359: Not to eat the meat of minor sacrifices before sprinkling the blood
• 335: To offer only unblemished animals
• 370: Not to slaughter sacrifices outside the courtyard
• 371: Not to offer any sacrifices outside the courtyard
• 372: To offer two lambs every day
• 379: To bring two additional lambs as burnt offerings on Shabbat
• 401: Not to work consecrated animals
• 402: Not to shear the fleece of consecrated animals
• 403: To slaughter the paschal sacrifice at the specified time
• 404: Not to slaughter it while in possession of leaven
• 405: Not to leave the fat overnight
• 406: To slaughter the second Paschal Lamb
• 407: To eat the Paschal Lamb with matzah and Marror on the night of the fourteenth of Nissan
• 408: To eat the second Paschal Lamb on the night of the 15th of Iyar
• 409: Not to eat the paschal meat raw or boiled
• 410: Not to take the paschal meat from the confines of the group
• 425: To set aside the firstborn animals
• 426: The Kohanim must not eat unblemished firstborn animals outside Jerusalem
• 427: Not to redeem the firstborn
• 428: Separate the tithe from animals
• 433: Bring an oleh v’yored (temple offering) offering (if the person is wealthy, an animal; if poor, a bird or meal offering)
• 439: Not to substitute another beast for one set apart for sacrifice
• 440: The new animal, in addition to the substituted one, retains consecration
• 441: Not to change consecrated animals from one type of offering to another
• 442: Carry out the laws of impurity of the dead
• 443: Carry out the procedure of the Red Heifer (cow) (Para Aduma)
• 457: Observe the laws of impurity caused by a dead beast
• 462: The court must judge the damages incurred by a goring ox
• 463: The court must judge the damages incurred by an animal eating
• 464: The court must judge the damages incurred by a pit
• 490: Break the neck of a calf by the river valley following an unsolved murder

Miscellaneous Commandments:

• 208: Not to swear falsely in God’s Name (if you do not believe in all 613 mitzvoth, don’t falsely swear to God)
• 214: Not to break oaths or vows
• 579: Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations
• 580: Not to diminish from the Torah any commandments, in whole or in part (sorry, all 613 Mitzvoth or none!).

Readers, if yours was a Christian-Jew or a Muslim-Jew marriage, would you let your children take the Bar Mitzvah oaths? Why a child cannot have both, Bar Mitzvah and Baptism? Is it fair for a child from a Hindu-Jew marriage with equality to take Bar Mitzvah oaths? Like Barak Obama, should a child be given an option to pick his/her own religion at an adult age? Express your views here.

Other articles written by InterfaithShaadi:
Bar Mitzvah for Hindus?,
Torah on Hindus?,
Koran on Hindus?,
Bible on Hindus?,
Hindus, Abrahamics and Intolerants,
Can Allah be the Father God?,
A Jealous and Angry God,
One God, Allah?,
Idol Worshippers: Who is and Who is Not,
Circumcision: Science or Superstition? ,
Saif and Kareena: Religion and Marriage,
Religious Conversion for Marriage,
Ten Points of Interfaith Dating ,
FAQ on Interfaith Marriage,
45% of Muslims Marry outside their faith,
38% of Hindus marry Abrahamics,
Interfaith Marriages: A Message to Dharmics,
Hindu-Muslim marriages,
Hindu girl/boy, Muslim girl/boy,
Hindu-Christian Marriage,
Hindu-Jew marriages,
Meera Verses Margaret,
Marriage laws,
Follow Jesus not the church

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One Response to “Bar Mitzvah for Hindus?”

  1. Jacob says:

    First of all, it does not matter what you do, you cannot be considered a Jew if you are born to a Hindu woman. So before placing your wish list, learn a little. You can dance all you want, it ain’t happening.

    Secondly, who told you all hindu’s don’t meat ? Vaishnavites don’t but Shaivaites do. So keep your stupid north indian crap there. This is why hindu’s in Bengal, Orissa,Andhra, Goa, Maharashtra, Tamil and Keral eat meat and fish. They are the real indians. Rest of you are not even Indian’s. You are invaders.

    I came here because I was looking topics to see how I can convert to Jainism and one link pointed me here and that was a beautiful person. Whereas you admin, you are a religious bigot. You are spreading hate. This site is not about interfaith or marriage, this is a RSS vehicle for abusing every other religion or views that does not matches you.

    Try to be a human first. Then it does not matter which religion you belong to.

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